I was re-reading this Torbert thread today and this stuck out for me, given recent ruminations on time, axes and the virtual:
""A third dimension of time can again be imagined as orthogonal (the Z axis) to the plane defined by chronological time (X axis) and eternity (Y axis). The three-dimensional 'volume' of time can be imagined as holding all possibilities, all the potentialities of the future and the still-hidden meanings of the past, some of which emerge into the present (become act-ualized) and then pass into linear, historical time, through a translation process that quantum physics now describes as a 'quantum collapse.'"
Also see Gidely previously. To reiterate, she notes in this work that Wilber recognizes linear time and the ever present (177). It seems though that the 3rd sort of time above, akin to Gebser's concretion, is either missing or underdetermined in kennilingus.* Hence we see such deficiencies in elucidating the kind of virtuality or excess discussed in this recent post (et seq.)
* "Wilber tends to swing between a primarily linear developmental model—albeit one thatincludes higher stages beyond the formal, mental mode—and the spiritual Timelessness of the non-dual. Sometimes, he brings both voices through in the same piece of writing, as indicated above. However, it is unclear whether Wilber sees Timelessness as being synchronous with Gebser’s origin. It appears likely that for Wilber this is an endpoint to be strived for rather than something that can be experienced as a concretion of all the temporicities" (180).
""A third dimension of time can again be imagined as orthogonal (the Z axis) to the plane defined by chronological time (X axis) and eternity (Y axis). The three-dimensional 'volume' of time can be imagined as holding all possibilities, all the potentialities of the future and the still-hidden meanings of the past, some of which emerge into the present (become act-ualized) and then pass into linear, historical time, through a translation process that quantum physics now describes as a 'quantum collapse.'"
Also see Gidely previously. To reiterate, she notes in this work that Wilber recognizes linear time and the ever present (177). It seems though that the 3rd sort of time above, akin to Gebser's concretion, is either missing or underdetermined in kennilingus.* Hence we see such deficiencies in elucidating the kind of virtuality or excess discussed in this recent post (et seq.)
* "Wilber tends to swing between a primarily linear developmental model—albeit one thatincludes higher stages beyond the formal, mental mode—and the spiritual Timelessness of the non-dual. Sometimes, he brings both voices through in the same piece of writing, as indicated above. However, it is unclear whether Wilber sees Timelessness as being synchronous with Gebser’s origin. It appears likely that for Wilber this is an endpoint to be strived for rather than something that can be experienced as a concretion of all the temporicities" (180).
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