Ultimately real?

Continuing the last post, Cheak is discussing the similarities of the eastern and western logics of 'both/and' instead of 'either/or.' It doesn't though address the additional 'neither/nor' of Nagarjuna's fourfold logic. 

I'm appreciating Gebser's distinction between samadhi and satori with this exception: Satori, which he equates with a nondual, arational awareness, allows for the experience of the 'ultimately real.' We've discussed in the forum at length this notion of direct access to an ultimate reality as being a version of the myth of the given. It's a matter of recontextualizing such experience postmetaphysically. The experience is valid but is it ultimate reality? E.g., see my article here.

"Although this experience can be realized in individuals, in human consciousness, it is nevertheless the manifestation of a transcendent consciousness" (32:00).

Satori is likened to the ever-present origin, and indeed it is in the east too, in that this awareness is something that has always been there from the beginning. True, but our natural, embodied, bare awareness is not some metaphysical, ultimate reality that we directly access.