Subtitle: An Integration of Integral Views. This
is Jennifer Gidley's book-length Ph.D. dissertation printed in toto in
Integral Review 5, 2007. I've referenced it in the forum several times
throughout the years so thought I'd give it a thread if anyone else
wants to read and discuss it. She compares and tries to integrate the
views of Wilber, Steiner and Gebser. Very instructive. I've enclosed a
few previous comments and quotes from the forum below about this work. See this IPS thread for ongoing discussion.
"For Gebser, integral-aperspectival consciousness is not experienced through expanded
consciousness,
more systematic conceptualizations, or greater quantities of
perspectives. In his view, such approaches largely represent
over-extended, rational characteristics. Rather, it involves an actual
re-experiencing, re-embodying, and conscious re-integration of the
living vitality of magic-interweaving, the imagination at the heart of
mythic-feeling and the purposefulness of mental conceptual thinking,
their presence raised to a higher resonance, in order for the integral
transparency to shine through" (111).
Another connection occurring to me (as gift from my Muse) is that
these image schemas, as well as Edwards' different lenses, taken singly
can represent the various theoretical ideologies. We've already seen how
a focus on the container schema can lead to an ideology of objectivist
hierarchical complexity. And using Bonnie's talk above, how a focus on a
cyclic image schema might lead to what Gebser called the mythic
structure (or ideology). Gebser's integral-aperspectival (IA) structure
though, at least according to Gidley (2007), is a means to allow for all
previous structures to be as they are and co-exist together
simultaneously. The IA is not another isolated structure that transcends
and replaces previous structures, including the mental. In this sense
it breaks with the pattern of progression in deficient rational. And we
see exactly this type of coordination of the various image schemas in
Lakoff, that each has its place, none are replaced. Same for Edwards'
lenses. This produces a new kind of transparent, postmeta paradigm of
multiplicty, in Deleuzes's terms, or IA in Gebser's. One that is relative according to Lakoff, but also constrained by the real.
Also see Gidley's Appendix A
from her lengthy paper "The evolution of consciousness as a planetary
imperative" in Integral Review 5, 2007. Therein she discussed Geber's
concretion of time. She said (p. 176):
"Gebser’s nuanced concretion of time does not represent a linear
developmental endpoint like that of the modernity project, nor is it
endlessly recursive in non-directional cyclical space as in Eliade’s
“myth of the eternal return” (Eliade, 1954/1989). Integral consciousness
as understood by Gebser does not place mythic and modern constructions
of time in opposition to each other, as both modern and traditional
approaches tend to do. Alternatively, Gebser’s temporic concretion is an
intensification of consciousness that enables re-integration of
previous structures of consciousness—with their different time
senses—honoring them all. It opens to new understanding through
atemporal translucence whereby all times are present to the intensified
consciousness in the same fully conscious moment."
Which reminds me of Balder's IL blog post that the future infinitive
of TSK is "not as something that will 'eventually arrive' or as a space
into which we will eventually move, but rather as the unfoundedness and
indeterminacy of being that is always with us.... This indeterminacy
finds expression in our knowledge, as an active not-knowing that allows
for the new. To engage the future infinitive is to embrace openness and
the unknown in the midst of the familiar."
I appreciate how Balder uses the infinity sign here to represent this
future infinitive which is present along each point in time, from past
to the future right now. I also use this symbol to represent the
relationship of states to stages in the WC lattice in a similar vein.
As for Torbert's triple-loop-de-loop: "I believe [it] echoes the
perspective explored in TSK as the future infinitive...and clearly
defines a post-reflective, integral mode of time-consciousness that
should not be confused with the present-centered and exquisitely
sensitive, but nevertheless still narrow prereflective temporality of
the Pirahã.
If interested we also have a thread on Torbert here. In particular, this
post and several following discusses triple time loops. In this post
Gidley criticizes the Lingam for not including the 3rd time loop, what
she calls concretion after Gebser. And on p. 3
a discussion of how this missing piece plays into how the Lingam
metaphysically formulates the Causal as distinct from the
postmetaphysical withdrawn of Bryant or the khora of Derrida. And all of which determines how one formulates what an integral consciousness even means in the first place.
All of which reminds me of "someone" who said:
"But such progress does not move in a line from pure origin to
guaranteed New Jerusalem. Its aim remains as Derrida insists,
messianically yet to come, a to come that does not unfold as a
predictable future outcome of present history. Progressive theopolitics
might then entail an alternative temporality, the time of
event–relations, in which our becoming together, now, makes possible but
does not determine that which is to come tomorrow: a helical, fractal
or rhizomatic kind of nonlinear progress."
"The postformal features I want to highlight include: complex
thinking, paradoxical reasoning. [...] Complex thinking involves the
ability to hold multiple perspectives in mind while at the same time
being able to meta-reflect on those perspectives and the potential
relationships among them. This is also referred to as metasystemic
thinking. Paradoxical thinking is one of the expressions of complex
postformal logic. [...] Postformal logics go beyond Aristotelian formal
logic, which requires an either/or response thus creating what is called
an 'excluded middle.' Paradoxical thinking refers to the ability to
hold in mind the apparently illogical possibility that two contradictory
statements can both be true—or indeed both false. This paradox of the
included middle allows for both/and and neither/nor to be correct" (152-3) [my emphasis].
"Steiner also used the term integral in a way that
foreshadowed Gebser’s use of the term. The latter claimed that the
integral structure of consciousness involves concretion of previous
structures of consciousness, whereby 'the various structures of
consciousness that constitute him must have become transparent and
conscious to him' (p. 99). Gebser used the term 'integral simultaneity'
(p. 143) to express this. This echoes Steiner’s characterization of 'the
stages on the way to higher powers of cognition ... [where one
eventually reaches] a fundamental mood of soul determined by the
simultaneous and integral experience of the foregoing stages'" (154).
I've changed some of my views on the above since that older posting
but it is basically the same. What is replaced is the formal notion of
ever more complexification. The integration of the 'lower' levels isn't
integrating them as they were when we were within them. They too have
been developing below awareness so then when we go 'back' to get them
they have evolved in themselves. Another way of looking at it is that
previous 'levels' become through their independent growth, and an
aperpectival integrating awareness, all at the same level.
Seeing them as higher/lower levels is another aspect that needs to be
replaced. And the previously 'lower' levels are indeed replaced because
in the integrative process they too are now up to speed, so to speak. This is the integral-aperspectival leap to 2nd tier. This twist in the program changes the entire dynamic of levels, lines, states etc.
Another slant or trajectory on this is this post
in the OOO thread, how the different levels in a human being are
different systems that have to communicate with each other via
structural coupling.
"In Luhmann's theory the 'human being' is not conceptualised as
forming a systemic unity. Instead it has to be understood as a
conglomerate of organic and psychic systems. The former consists of
biochemical elements, the latter of thoughts. Both systems are
operatively closed against each other: no system can contribute elements
to the respectively other system. The systems are however structurally
coupled; i.e. their respective structures are adjusted to each other in
such a way as to allow mutual irritations" (9-10).
Only with IA awareness we 'integrate' the various levels-systems not
by subsuming them into the higher or unitary level but by the levels now
structurally coupling with and communicating with each other. Our
consciousness is now an hier(an)archical multiplicity with many often irritating voices.
In Chapter 6 of Goddard’s Transpersonal Theory
he reiterates something I said in the Krishnamurti 2 thread about
Gebser. Previous structures are not holonically subsumed into the next
higher structure. The lower structures continue to develop laterally
within the dominant higher structure. However successively higher
structures up to the mental-ego are by nature “divisive” or exclusive
into a higher-lower polarity whereby one pole is dominant, and higher
tends to at least consciously (epistemologically) subsume the lower.
Nonetheless ontologically the repressed (and previous) pole (structure)
continues to develop but unconsciously and it is not until the so-called
centaur structure (Geber’s IA) that we begin the return arc of
integration of our formerly repressed structures. This conscious return
then finds those previous structures having gone through their own
developments unbeknownst to us so that they are not the immature magical
and mythical worldviews they were on the upward arc of development. Add
in the conscious ego’s recognition and integration of them and we get
an IA structure that holds all of the structures as they are without
contradiction.
Gebser notes we need "awaring" in this new level, which seems akin to
Torbert's alchemist with his "attentional" approach. And like Torbert's
shift from a cognitive/structural approach Gebser emphasizes a shift
away from deficient rationality (aka false reason). And no amount of
even healthy rationality (real reason) is going to effect this shift by
itself, unless it uses the power of its focus via unattached
"mindfulness" to integrate our bodies, energetics and emotions within
it, as well as integrating this awaring with others and the world at
large. Or as the marketing slogan goes: Integrating body, mind and
spirit in self, culture and nature.
I referenced Levin in the Gebser thread but he has his own thread from our prior Gaia discussions at this link.
I noted that Levin’s evolution of bodies is a linear progression in
stages 1 -3 but then the progression turns “inward” into depth
integration of prior stages. Stages 4 & 5 seems to be nonlinear and
analogical, replete with access to the collective unconscious through
ceremony, ritual and myth. My intuition is that stages 4 & 5 cannot
be adequately represented by a linear, hierarchical math and that if it
is possible at all (?) it would be through some form of nonlinear,
rhizome-like math of ambiguity and uncertainty.
See Levin’s The Opening of Vision pp, 47-9.
Gidley talks about the difference between research that identifies
postformal operations (PFO) from examples of those that enact PFO. And
that much of the research identifying PFO has itself “been framed and
presented from a formal, mental-rational mode” (109). Plus those
enacting PFO don’t “necessarilty conceptualize it as such” (104),
meaning the way those that identify it do, i.e., from a formal
operational (FO) mode. Which is of course one of my key inquiries: Is
the way PFO is identified through FO really just a FO worldview
interpretation of what PFO might be? Especially since those enacting PFO
disagree with the very premises of the FO worldview and its “formally”
dressed PFO?
This is also part of the problem with a strictly mathematical model
of hierarchical complexity based on set theory. Phenomenon, including
human cognitive structures, do not fit nicely into one 'set' or category
so that they can be completely included and subsumed into the next
higher set or category. At best each phenomenon interacts with another
more like a venn diagram, overlapping with some area in common, but
other areas that are not included and subsumed in a higher synthesis.
Which is why I wonder whether the formal study of postformal enactments
in methods like the MHC is itself a formal or PF enactment. Or some venn
combination between, sharing partial sets from both?
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