ILR interview with Sean Esbjörn-Hargens

Continuing from this post:

From this recent ILR interview with Sean Esbjörn-Hargens:

"[T]he theme of the conference, which is around 'Integral Impacts' which is simultaneously a statement and a question aimed at exploring the issue of whether integral approaches are more impactful than other non-integral approaches? The narrative that we tell ourselves in the integral community is that it is. It logically has to be. And yet there aren’t a lot of examples that really make that case. If push comes to shove, I think we as a community are hard-pressed to actually demonstrate that."