Continuing this post, around 16:10 the
interviewer appreciates Michael's global perspective. He sees that
lacking in the integral, game b and metamodern communities as being
insular to the US and northern Europe.
Michael (17:00) responds that
he sees those movements as being idealist in the Hegelian sense, the
notion of ideas and consciousness moving history. Michael sees in the
other way; look to how people are living and how that affects their
thinking. The forces and conditions under which people live, like
capitalism, shapes what kind of thoughts they can have.
A point, btw, that I made in "from capitalism to the collaborative commons."
Another point I've made and
with which Michael agrees is that in integral circles the above
manifests as a false belief that all that is necessary is to market and
sell the model to businesses, governments, and/or do personal meditative
training to raise one's consciousness, assuming that is enough (20:50).
After the last
reference he goes on a long discussion of identity politics on both
sides, how they use the same narrative structure. He uses Cornel West as
an example of one who can speak to real injustices from a different
narrative, one that doesn't merely
victimize those who are truly oppressed or merely hate those who do the
oppressing, but speaks from a spiritual center of love for all
concerned.*
However that doesn't prevent West from
reigning down hell fire where it's due, or heaping heavenly praise
likewise. It takes a discerning eye to tell the difference. Michael is
also critical of those who can't make that distinction and just label
anyone who defends the downtrodden as SJWs or mean green meme, a common
malady in the integral movement and IDW.
* Keep in
mind this is one reason West is an avid Sanders supporter. Bernie has a
genuine love for humanity that grounds his critique of the powerful and
defense of the oppressed. For me this is typical of the progressives.
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